Quote: 4u2sm0ke wrote in post #25

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IDK...Maybe the clips are to small?...I like to have atleast 3 node sites

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Quote: orangesunshine wrote in post #26

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Quote: 4u2sm0ke wrote in post #25

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IDK...Maybe the clips are to small?...I like to have atleast 3 node sites

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cuts are not too small---whats the temperature in the room---what happened to your moving them to a space where they be getting more fresh air less direct light---how bout the plugs are they moist---is the water ur using fresh with oxygen not sitting around too long---do u see any alge forming on the plug---does the stem look slimry---if so u might try a bit of h202 in the next watering

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oxygen in the water is just as important as oxygen in the air...you might consider adding hydrogen peroxide h2o2 to that bucket of water you're using

thanks! how much per gal? so, I take it I should invest in some sort of pump with air stone to drop down in my buckets?

Quote: Monoxide wrote in post #29

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thanks! how much per gal? so, I take it I should invest in some sort of pump with air stone to drop down in my buckets?

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Cooler temps. Good air. Lighting can be minimal. pH at 6.

I lost the far right one. the next one over is still slumped over and the other two are fading to a light green, but still standing.

How's the rh in the space you're keeping the moms? If it's low, but then you put the cuts in a dome with high rh that you continually spray, you may just be stopping their transpiration, which they still need to do.

Maybe try rooting them minus the dome in the same space the mother is in, way less shock if you can root in the same environment they're use to. Or, you can try rooting minus the dome (I can't remember the last time I domed a cut, and I do pretty much 100%), especially if the air is dry in your mom space. If they look droopy, put the dome on, but I wouldn't spray it all the time like you said in your op, cuts still need to release their waste.

Well, after I believe OS said to ditch the dome, I did. The original clones stayed standing up the whole time. Its been a month now and not a single root. Now the clones are dead. The rh in my cabinet is around 35% I tried to move them down on the floor outside of the cabinet with the heat mat and a 60w cfl for the last week and that just finished them off.

I read that some ppl put clay pellets in the bottom of their tray during cloning? Is that something I should have done? Should I just buy one of those air pumps with a stone and pucks to try to clone that way? I've seen amazing results from youtube with that setup. I'm bummed I lost my Critical Kush line, I will miss it.

I have a critical kush about 40 days into flower, can I still cut off of it and try to get it to root?

Quote: Monoxide wrote in post #34

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Well, after I believe OS said to ditch the dome, I did. The original clones stayed standing up the whole time. Its been a month now and not a single root. Now the clones are dead. The rh in my cabinet is around 35% I tried to move them down on the floor outside of the cabinet with the heat mat and a 60w cfl for the last week and that just finished them off.

I read that some ppl put clay pellets in the bottom of their tray during cloning? Is that something I should have done? Should I just buy one of those air pumps with a stone and pucks to try to clone that way? I've seen amazing results from youtube with that setup. I'm bummed I lost my Critical Kush line, I will miss it.

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Quote: Monoxide wrote in post #35

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I have a critical kush about 40 days into flower, can I still cut off of it and try to get it to root?

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I just bought the heat mat because I wanted to move them out of the cabinet and off of the T5 they were sitting on. So the heat mat didn't come into play until like maybe a week ago. I immediately ditched the water in the jug I was using and even added some HP to it.

Ya, my RH goes up and down it is usually pretty dry in there, but the majorty its around the 30-35% mark. When my plants in veg need watered they RH goes down, but once watered the cabinet climbs up to 35%. I noticed when I pulled them out of the plug, one plug did have a little white stuff on it, not a lot but some.

that white stuff was likely the H202---if so it tells tells me that you had pathogens in the medium and likely the h202 was too concentrated---use this chart for household h202


TO THIS AMOUNT OF WATER ADD THIS AMOUNT OF 3% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE --OR-- ADD THIS AMOUNT OF 35% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE
1 cup 1 and 1/2 teaspoons 7 to 10 drops
1 quart 2 tablespoons 1/2 teaspoon
1 gallon 1/2 cup 2 teaspoons
5 gallons 2 and 1/2 cups 3 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon
10 gallons 5 cups 6 tablespoons plus 2 teaspoons
20 gallons 10 cups 3/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon plus 1 teaspoon
bathtub (aprox 25 to 35 gallons) * 12 to 17 cups 1 to 1.5 cups

I guess I put too much lol. I put 1 cup per gallon. but for clones. I just use a one gallon jug and keep what I don't use in it for next time. Should I be empting the jug every time and only fix enough for the daily watering.

Quote: Monoxide wrote in post #40

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I guess I put too much lol. I put 1 cup per gallon. but for clones. I just use a one gallon jug and keep what I don't use in it for next time. Should I be empting the jug every time and only fix enough for the daily watering.

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Maybe spray the leaves or tops more and water less?

Yes, but the pucks were pretty dry. Not entirely dry, but dry enough to suck up 1/3 a shot of water. I just let them pull what they pull from a shot glass of water. What about drifting? I have always used 5.4 ph water.

Alright. I started all fresh clones. I am trying two things this round. I took 2 lower branches and 2 from the tops and cut close to a node so the branch will continue to grow. I am still using clonex rooting gel and rapid rooters. PH is 5.4 and the RH once I took the dome and tray out of the cabinet is 54%.

Should I use the dome or no dome?

I would run the dome...
I would raise PH to 6....
Never used a rapid rooter so can't speak to those.....
I would always cut from the lower branches as they are more ready to root either by age or chemical makeup from where they are located on the plant...based on a couple different perspectives I have read on the subject....

I am pretty sure 53% humidity is crispy dry for hanging buds and based on that would use dome to have more until rooted...

Well that's like a nickels worth...bit more than my usual 2 cents....

How can you keep 100% humidity without a dome? My dome gets dry within 2 hours.

Even with the little vent open, if its wet in there, it should still stay pretty wet for a while. Shouldnt dry out that fast

Yea, that is what I am thinking.

Ok, its been exactly a week since I started over on the clones. The dome seems to have stayed around 60% humidity. The plugs have stayed damp and I have only had to water them one time, which was yesterday. "besides the initial one" I opened the dome for about an hour every day. I checked them yesterday and I don't see anything happening yet, but I know its only been a week. Should I go ahead and take the dome off now?

This time around they are out of the cabinet, no heat mat and sitting under a 60w cfl bulb.

About a week in is when I ditch the dome....
And start with the foliage sprays if it gets or looks dry...... Still just water for me at this point another week......